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文章pauline_chiou » 2008-03-03 01:40

如題,有些問題想請教....
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文章Kyo » 2008-03-03 13:31

什麼問題呢?
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文章pauline_chiou » 2008-03-03 18:39

dear kyo~~
已經mail給你囉~~ thx
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文章davidlee0222 » 2008-03-04 02:45

剛畢業還是把學校當基地
非關私人的問題可以PO出來
應該也會有別人有興趣
就小弟獎學金評審與adcom director深度互動的經驗
以及經典課程幾乎修完和海外課程實際經歷盡可能協助
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文章pauline_chiou » 2008-03-04 16:09

dear davidlee0222

我的問題在....
我本身對於thunderbird很有興趣
之前就準備過cbt和at (但成績不佳)
不過又跑去工作...
去年十月辭職準備
ibt考過一次(慘敗)
現在先準備at

想知道thunderbird的ibt課程風評如何
上來傷咖求助各位學長姐
我明白讀書是自己的事情 其實到哪裡唸都一樣
可能一直沒有考到理想的成績 所以心理很慌....

最近大家都在問申請的事情 這個問題好像有點不是時候 @@
anyway 還是很謝謝 davidlee0222 和kyo ~~~!!!

也祝大家申請順利
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文章davidlee0222 » 2008-03-05 05:35

學校的PreMBA課程不錯
不過另外一門托福ibt準備課程據小弟泰國死黨親身經歷的說法
不太需要砸個三四千塊美金來請家教
也沒什麼太大幫助
台灣的補習班技巧解題法應該厲害多了
不過現在的ibt難度提升
只有整體語文實力提升才有實質幫助
ibt即使衝個八九十分
來這裡的都還是鴨子聽雷

另一部分是建議工作資歷多點再來會比較有效
雖說學校率取門檻是至少兩年經驗
當然也有人天資優異工作不到兩年就進來的
但小弟個人建議還是累積個四五年再來會更有效
這裡嚴格來說不是來唸書的
是來打世界大戰
連八年經驗都不一定吃得消
這裡各國老外都是六年八年十二年經驗
連日本韓國來的都平均八年 一半是公司不然政府派來的
平常上課討論高來高去
找不到什麼破綻 步調又快
問題是在美國沒貢獻就等於不存在
每天開會三個會要多點經驗才有多點東西貢獻
Peer Evaluation組員評分也才賺的到分

等工作久一點實戰經驗磨夠了
來這裡打世界大戰才有上場領導機會
出來也才懂得如何與實務結合
在職場上帶領企業前進
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文章Kyo » 2008-03-05 07:32

你要說自己很偉大,可以,沒關係,反正事實如何大家也都心知肚明
但是你要用這種貶低別人來突顯自己很厲害的言論,就要言之有據
你跟所有台灣人一起上過課嗎?話說的多,不代表貢獻多
大家人好,不想多說些什麼~
記得當時還有老外問過,台灣男生都像D先生這麼"特別"嗎?
不要只活在自己的象牙塔,催眠自己很厲害,最後就好像變的很厲害
很多時候,大家怎麼想你,只是不想說破而已,不要太過自以為是了
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文章Jason Lee » 2008-03-05 22:19

Kyo \$m[1]:你要說自己很偉大,可以,沒關係,反正事實如何大家也都心知肚明
但是你要用這種貶低別人來突顯自己很厲害的言論,就要言之有據
你跟所有台灣人一起上過課嗎?話說的多,不代表貢獻多
大家人好,不想多說些什麼~
記得當時還有老外問過,台灣男生都像D先生這麼"特別"嗎?
不要只活在自己的象牙塔,催眠自己很厲害,最後就好像變的很厲害
很多時候,大家怎麼想你,只是不想說破而已,不要太過自以為是了


Everyone is entitled to have dreams and to live in his dreams. I feel it’s a little harsh to tell him the reality. Without his dream, he would be nothing. Therefore, please be kind to the poor guy, and let him keep dreaming.
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文章mauricew » 2008-03-05 22:36

大家就盡量不要再繼續說下去了...
雖然你們都是前輩
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文章davidlee0222 » 2008-03-06 01:59

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文章Jason Lee » 2008-03-06 02:29

I am sorry, but I didn’t really understand what you wrote here.
“You should prove it by yourself first.” What does he have to prove? What are you trying to refer to?
“graduate first and make it professional.” Make what professional? Make his suggestions professional?
“don’t make others think all T-Birds like this.” What do all T-Birds like? They all love this guy? Are you trying to say don’t make other people think all T-Birds are like this guy?

I don’t know whether your job requires you to use English. I am sure we all don’t mind if you cannot express yourself clearly in English, you could use Chinese.


davidlee0222 \$m[1]:you should prove it by yourself first
go to school and go to meetings
graduate first and make it professional
don't make others think all T-Birds like this

I proved it already.

Kyo \$m[1]:你要說自己很偉大,可以,沒關係,反正事實如何大家也都心知肚明
但是你要用這種貶低別人來突顯自己很厲害的言論,就要言之有據
你跟所有台灣人一起上過課嗎?話說的多,不代表貢獻多
大家人好,不想多說些什麼~
記得當時還有老外問過,台灣男生都像D先生這麼"特別"嗎?
不要只活在自己的象牙塔,催眠自己很厲害,最後就好像變的很厲害
很多時候,大家怎麼想你,只是不想說破而已,不要太過自以為是了
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文章Jason Lee » 2008-03-06 03:01

Please don’t take me wrong. From the sentences I wrote, which one of them directly points to you personally? I was just trying to say everyone is entitled to have dreams regardless what other people think or say. You are entitled to believe what you have accomplished and to be proud of yourselves (which is the case here) even if others might think otherwise. It would not be our jobs to help you to diminish the gap between what you believe and what other people think (so called reality).

I apologize that English articles has caused you troubles and misunderstandings. I will try to find a Chinese operation system when I respond to your comments.

davidlee0222 \$m[1]:It's not a dream my friend
everything is real.
I hope you can find your passion and live on that like me

you need to understand it's not about how others talk about you
it's the spirit you bring in
and make the whole community more and more competitive day by day
then you'll figure out who's the poor people
even if you have a great school name
it's empty if you don't have the spirit
if you watched the cartoon movie Cars

still, it's unprofessional to make it personal
don't ever lower your professionalism
you're reducing your own credibility
you should bring in more energy
inspire higher excellence of the MBA career
then you'll have no time to point your finger at others
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文章流浪水手 » 2008-03-06 04:16

可以請版主鎖定或刪除此文嗎
要討論個人有關問題請私下交流
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