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[問題] 天山 4-38

文章reohuang » 2005-02-22 18:45

Q38:
In one state, all cities and most towns have antismoking ordinances. A petition entitled“Petition for Statewide Smoking Restriction” is being circulated to voters by campaign workers who ask only, “Do you want to sign a petition for statewide smoking restriction?” The petition advocates a state law banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public.

Which of the following circumstances would make the petition as circulated misleading to voters who understand the proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide?

A. Health costs associated with smoking cause health insurance premiums to rise for everyone and so affect nonsmokers.
B. In rural areas of the state, there are relatively few retail establishments and government offices that are open to the public.
C. The state law would supersede the local antismoking ordinances, which contain stronger bans than the state law does.
D. There is considerable sentiment among voters in most areas of the state for restriction of smoking.
E. The state law would not affect existing local ordinances banning smoking in places where the fire authorities have determined that smoking would constitute a fire hazard.

有點摸不著頭緒的一題
參考答案為E
請大家指教

B"引伸"說明voter如果支持extending the local ordinances statewide
但是這個petition的如果成功後的結果只有banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public
而rural areas 又few retail establishments and government offices that are open to the public
將與原先支持的預期結果相左...
不知道是不是滿足這個misleading?
怕有點過渡引伸

另外E不大知道怎麼解釋?
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文章agk99 » 2005-02-23 00:41

我覺得BE都很好,不選ACD
關鍵在於是否有從all cities and most towns 擴及到statewide

如果選B的理由在於,既便是鄉村地區的retail store and government office很少,顯示法律的效果只是表面上擴及全州,實際上並無

如果選E的理由在於,新的法令無法影響原有的規定,因為原來就有一些規定(如消防隊就不能抽煙),所以這個訴求的效果有限,也是表面上擴及全州,實際上作用有限

真的不好選
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文章Calvin » 2005-02-23 01:12

我支持C

用較寬鬆的州法來取代較嚴格的地方法對認為地方法將全面推廣至全州的人來說,是有誤導作用的
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文章agk99 » 2005-02-23 01:15

從題幹的extending來看,我覺得這裡不討論stronger or not, 而是討論法律能否擴及全州,所以我不選C

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文章Calvin » 2005-02-23 01:58

我認為B的rural areas of the state有問題,題幹問的是voters who...,並沒有專指rural areas' voter,換言之,對cities and towns' voter來說,並沒有misleading

E,我是想不出那�有讓voter misleading了(支持statewide smoking ban好像沒什麼損失?)

相反的,本來地方法規定的比較嚴格(對支持禁菸的人來說,是好的),結果宣傳人員只問一句『你們要簽擴及全州的禁煙令的訴願書嗎?』,結果以為這個全州禁煙令是地方禁煙令的延伸(意即規範一樣嚴格)的這些人一簽…哇靠…竟然發現這個州法比原來地方法還要寬鬆,那不是裝孝維嗎?竟然被騙了…如果事前這些人知道州法比地方法寬的話,那根本不會簽petition

我覺得C比較有misleading的味道

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Re: [問題] 天山 4-38

文章micht » 2005-02-23 05:23

Q38:
In one state, all cities and most towns have antismoking ordinances. A petition entitled“Petition for Statewide Smoking Restriction” is being circulated to voters by campaign workers who ask only, “Do you want to sign a petition for statewide smoking restriction?” The petition advocates a state law banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public.

Which of the following circumstances would make the petition as circulated misleading to voters who understand the proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide?

A. Health costs associated with smoking cause health insurance premiums to rise for everyone and so affect nonsmokers.
B. In rural areas of the state, there are relatively few retail establishments and government offices that are open to the public.
C. The state law would supersede the local antismoking ordinances, which contain stronger bans than the state law does.
D. There is considerable sentiment among voters in most areas of the state for restriction of smoking.
E. The state law would not affect existing local ordinances banning smoking in places where the fire authorities have determined that smoking would constitute a fire hazard.

我選B耶 ;-S
也是focus在是否有 petitionstatewide?

for E, 可是"banning smoking in places where the fire authorities have determined that........."==>可是我們不清楚"the places" 的範圍有多廣?? ^o) 也許 the places 的範圍很小? ie) near 加油站 only...等等
如此一來 petition 可能有沒mislead阿 有可能答到statewide..
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文章shopcat » 2005-03-05 17:34

我也想請教這題
我也選C 可是答案好像是E or B
到底要怎麼解這一提ㄚ
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文章Behemoth » 2005-03-06 00:36

這題我也支持c
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文章hwatai » 2005-03-06 23:51

看了幾次 覺得CE其實是相反的選項
C  在extending後,local原本較嚴的法與state的法不合
E   在extending後,法的內容沒有變化

這樣看來是C比好,不過沒有正解真是傷腦筋
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文章liwuu » 2005-03-07 19:42

看了一兩天,我投c一票!!
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文章reohuang » 2005-03-23 04:31

哈~我不是來亂的啦
不過我有點想來改變一下我原來選的B(還有原先不懂要表達含意的E)
我決定改選E...理由如下:

題目問的是:
Which of the following circumstances would make the petition as circulated misleading to voters who understand the proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide?
我想是不是問題點只在於:
這些voter就是以為原先local petition會statewide
所以如果local petition沒有statewide...就造成了跟他們原先所想的不一樣的狀況

所以:不論B的relatively few retail establishments and government offices...
--->雖然少...但是它的的確確也是statewide了
還是C的 local antismoking ordinances, which contain stronger bans than the state law does...
--->雖然被新的比較不嚴厲的法取代了...但是它的的確確也是statewide了

都沒有E的The state law would not affect existing local ordinances ...這樣的狀況來的好
--->local還是local...並沒有statewide...

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文章Calvin » 2005-03-23 05:28

我是來亂的

完全不同意Reo說的

state law 沒有影響 原本local ordinances的某些規定(如E說的)並不表示該法沒有 STATEWIDE

請指正我的錯誤
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Re: [問題] 天山 4-38

文章micht » 2005-03-23 20:17

reohuang \$m[1]:Q38:
In one state, all cities and most towns have antismoking ordinances(每個城市or town都有自己的antismoking制度). A petition entitled“Petition for Statewide Smoking Restriction” is being circulated to voters by campaign workers who ask only, “Do you want to sign a petition for statewide smoking restriction?” The petition advocates a state law banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public. (有一個Petition問"你要不要為Petition for Statewide smokig restriction 簽一下名) 這個Petition是要banning on在"most retail establishment and goverment offices)

Which of the following circumstances [highlight=yellow]would make the petition as circulated misleading to voters [/highlight]who understand the proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide?
下列哪種請況會誤導voters以為proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide


B. In rural areas of the state, there are relatively few retail establishments and government offices that are open to the public.

[highlight=#FFFFB2](因為當初sign Petition時此Petition大多於most retail establishments and in government offices那宣傳 因此voters以為有達到statewide[全國認同]的效果, 但由(B)選項可了解題目所描述的有誤導misleading voters的感覺 因為事實上rural areas這個Petition並沒有大量被sign/接受)[/highlight]

C. The state law would supersede the local antismoking ordinances, which contain stronger bans than the state law does.

(我覺得此提重點是 被voters簽的Petition到底有沒有達到statewide[全國認同] 的效果 和law stronger沒有關係)

open to further discussion :laugh
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文章Calvin » 2005-03-24 00:05

何謂「全國認同」?

另外,最後一句句意的解讀與妳的不同

The petition advocates a state law banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public.
我認為句意是--->訴願書支持禁止在太多數的retail establishments and government offices的州禁煙令
而不是妳所說的--->這個Petition在"most retail establishment and goverment offices宣廣)

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文章Pudding » 2005-03-24 16:21

個人覺得E基本上有點離題, B / C兩個選項真是讓人有點暈. 我自己是選B. 題目第一句就先設定: In one state, all cities and most towns have antismoking ordinances. 也就是說在該州, 還沒有實施禁煙的只剩下一些rural areas.

後面緊接著說明 The petition advocates a state law banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public. 假如剩下唯一需要實施禁煙的地區, 根本就沒什麼retail establishments & government offices (如B所言), 那麼這個所謂的請願書其實形同虛設, 因為end out的結果是跟之前一樣的, 由此產生所謂的misleading.

至於C, 我覺得題目僅從禁煙範圍著手 (statewide), 並未mention 程度, 因此傾向排除該選項.

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